Mystery martial art

[gypes37]

On the old forum there was a thread of a very unknown martial art that could be summed up as the opposite of tai chi. I cant for the life of me remember the name of this martial art. It involves stopping all ki flow of the body and it is considered very deadly. Im hoping some one here knows the name of it. I know this thread sounds a little funney but if any of the guys that were on the old forum remember please post.

[FrozenIpaq]

On the old forum there was a thread of a very unknown martial art that could be summed up as the opposite of tai chi. I cant for the life of me remember the name of this martial art. It involves stopping all ki flow of the body and it is considered very deadly. Im hoping some one here knows the name of it. I know this thread sounds a little funney but if any of the guys that were on the old forum remember please post.

In all my martial arts training I haven't really heard of a martial arts that fits your description. It sounds as if someone was exagerrating the art. Describing a martial art as deadly just sounds like someone's trying to promote it. Martial arts are about defending oneself, exercising the proper control is key as well in many martial arts - so to have a "deadly" one sounds untraditional.

You might want to take a look at Krav Maga, it is a very brutal military/combat system. I haven't seen any art compared to Tai Chi as the opposite of it, so juding from that comment I would recommend looking at Hapkido - I'm not too familiar with this but from what I know it contains some use of Ki (stopping the flow) and has some "hard" techniques

[gypes37]

I do agree with what you say about adding the word deadly, the reason i put into the post is because it is quite that. I saw a few videos and read some articles on it. It is the exact opposite as tai chi, instead working for calm or peace in your soul every attack is based on death. Also it's not that i wanted to learn this art, i believe there are no schools in the us that teach it. The problem is that i wanted to research it more but i have forgotten the the name of it.

[69NINJA]

I remember "Dim Mak" the touch of death being talked about looong ago.


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[gypes37]

Sorry or the double post, i actually found the martial art. It is called dim mak. I was a little off in my interpretation of this martial art as it is actually a form of tai chi. The translation is press artery.

[FrozenIpaq]

I remember "Dim Mak" the touch of death being talked about looong ago.


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An interesting read, great memory Ninja!

[69NINJA]

Sorry or the double post, i actually found the martial art. It is called dim mak. I was a little off in my interpretation of this martial art as it is actually a form of tai chi. The translation is press artery.

Im pretty sure it translates "death touch", and its not a martial art its a punch, sort of.

sorry if this sounded rude, im tired and cranky.:Buried:

[FrozenIpaq]

Im pretty sure it translates "death touch", and its not a martial art its a punch, sort of.

sorry if this sounded rude, im tired and cranky.:Buried:

Uncrank yourself! I was about to mention it as well, but my source was wikipedia ;) I couldn't find any specific art that refereed to dim mak in particular but he could just be referring to a single technique. Actually, just reading a few sources (not credible, but still could offer misconceptions) but they do refer to it as a martial arts that focuses on pressure points

[gypes37]

With further research i have found that it is not just one technique it is a martial art with it roots in tai chi. The attacks work by activating pressure points in vital areas. all points of impact would be the same points targeted in acupuncture. The literal translation is indeed touch artery. The idea of death coming from one strike in this style comes from a story. Actually it is possible to kill someone with one attack from this style. B stopping the flow of ki of an organ it will eventually die so within days to a few months said person could die but not instantly. After research i dont believe this style is any more dangerous than other martial arts in that most martial arts have moves that deal death at a point. There are a few books on it at barnes and noble.com if any one is interested further.

[Jason Moore]

This site seemed to offer some cool info:

http://www.dimmak.net/

And here is the encyclopedia of dim mak:

http://www.amazon.com/Main-Meridians-Encyclopedia-Dim-Mak/dp/0873649230

[Tony Ferrill]

Anybody remember the comic books and ads in the 70's?Count Dante-Dim Mak.He was a real character-controversial to say the least!Got a student killed in a fight/raid of another dojo-sold black belt status through mail order,but was reputed to be a decent fighter.
Dim Mak is real technique-but I would prefer to study what I'm doing-Ryukyu Kempo.Some of it seems like voodoo to me-but I can't argue with what I've experienced!
Respectfully,Tony

[bobO]

I was waiting for someone to bring this up. My older brother got this and praticed on me! I've had the dance of death done on me so many times I should be... well, DEAD!!! Never liked it then, don't like it now, some of that stuff did hurt like the devil.

[Dotanuki]

This is for Tony and Bob-O,

http://www.chicagoreader.com/features/stories/countdante/

I think you will find this a very interesting article.
This article is very accurate. Martial Arts traditionalists hate him to this day, because he was legitimately trained, and he basically stuck it to the stoic established martial arts of the time. I'm not saying I agree, I'm just stating this is true.
BTW, Dante's Dim Mak was not the real Dim Mak, only sensationalism.

Dim Mak is the chinese name for the vital point arts, the same arts also exist in the Japanese/Okinawan and older Korean martial arts.
The Japanese, Okinawan and older Korean arts are based on the Chinese arts.
The Japanese and Okinawan names for these arts are often Kyusho-jutsu (vital point art), Koppo-jutsu (bone breaking art), Koshi-jutsu (fingertip striking techniques) and Atemi-jutsu (striking art)
The Chin-na (chinese) and Tuite (Okinawan) grappling arts are closely inter-related with the vital point arts. As are the kansetsu waza (locking techniques) of the Japanese in many instances.
If you pick up the the book, "The Bubishi, the Karate Bible" you can see how closely related all these arts are, to the Chinese.
Unfortunately all (most) of these books on Dim Mak, are usually just sensationalism. These are advanced techniques you will not learn in a book, and even very advanced practitioners find these arts very involved and hard to learn.
Many of these techniques are quite valid in today's world (right, Tony?) and many no longer have the same effect due to today's advanced medicinal techniques.

Remember as in all arts, there are the real practitioners and the sensationalists, very often the uninformed cannot distinquish between the two.
Only through investigation and study will one discover the truth.
(As in all things!)

[gypes37]

Pretty cool article, although his methods seem a little shady he was a bit of a pioneer.