Oops I Did It Again

[goose710]

I think i just bought a early Muromachi(1335-1573) WAC fully dressed in antqueic (old) fittings,Attribited as Mihara with (nbthk hozon papers) Haven't got confirmation yet but we'll see.
Will post pic's as soon as confirmed
da goose710

[jwilliams]

I can't wait to see the pics. Did you get it from the same place that you missed the other one on? Why oops? in the title.

[goose710]

Mr Williams
Oops cause i haven't told de wife yet, She claims we're running out of room for such things! silly woman!!
Yes it became availible tonight and i jumped this time cause i lost the other one so quickly. The store is in Japan and i believe there is some lag time between order placed and confirmation. as yet unconfirmed
will keep thee posted
da goose710

[goose710]

pictures of new hihonto
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/7326/075821sm2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/7326/075821sm2.ef6151ec7c.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=207&i=075821sm2.jpg)
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/1526/07582koshiraeji8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/1526/07582koshiraeji8.f6f2daf851.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=515&i=07582koshiraeji8.jpg)
da goose710

[goose710]

Well bad news seems my visa card put a block on the transaction for security reasons and i called Japan but they told me it was gone already, i'm hoping they just got it mixed up, will see tuesday/wednesday. i knew i shouldn't have mentioned it
da (SAD) goose710

[bobO]

And here I was all excited! There's more out there Goose. Better luck next time. Things don't always work out the way we would like believe me I know!

[jwilliams]

Mr Williams
Oops cause i haven't told de wife yet, She claims we're running out of room for such things! silly woman!!
Yes it became availible tonight and i jumped this time cause i lost the other one so quickly. The store is in Japan and i believe there is some lag time between order placed and confirmation. as yet unconfirmed
will keep thee posted
da goose710

It's like Jell-o, there's always room for more. I hope it was just an oversight on your credit card about the block. Keep us posted.

[Taygrd]

Oops cause i haven't told de wife yet, She claims we're running out of room for such things! silly woman!!

da goose710
They do not understand that the purcahse of such items is an essential male action. Man must surround himself with such objects in order to entertain and occupy himself when she is not willing to.:-< ;) =P~ :> =))

[FrozenIpaq]

Impressive, I hope you get it! How much was being asked for this piece? I haven't seen many from the Muromachi era

[goose710]

well
there is hope ! the sword is on hold, don't know if ther're holding it for me or another party. they did try to use my credit card on the 14th june so what i got over the phone fri nite was bogus,comunication problem.
ripped visa a new one for messin me up, the block is now deffinatly lifted! i told them if this card don't work i'll go to another company!!!!! i am steamed good.
we'll see , sent an e-mail to the store more info maybe tomorrow
da goose710

[bobO]

Dang, I'm burning incense at the sword buyers altar. That blade has some hada from the looks of it. and the furniture looks to be top notch. Hope you get it !

[goose710]

Bob-o and all concerned parties

I GOTZ IT !!!!!!!!!!!
A whole line of miscomunications first visa thought i was an on line thief, then Lil missy in Japan couldn't speak de english, then i went away for my long week-end. I have confirmation this morning that as soon as it clears customs it's on it's way! about 2 1/2 weeks
Your support during these trying time is much appreciated ( the incense worked Bob-o) send some over the house for the next time dude!!
da goose710

[jwilliams]

Bob-o and all concerned parties

I GOTZ IT !!!!!!!!!!!
A whole line of miscomunications first visa thought i was an on line thief, then Lil missy in Japan couldn't speak de english, then i went away for my long week-end. I have confirmation this morning that as soon as it clears customs it's on it's way! about 2 1/2 weeks
Your support during these trying time is much appreciated ( the incense worked Bob-o) send some over the house for the next time dude!!
da goose710

That's great Goose, we've all been pulling for you. It's like we all won.

[FrozenIpaq]

Bob-o and all concerned parties

I GOTZ IT !!!!!!!!!!!
A whole line of miscomunications first visa thought i was an on line thief, then Lil missy in Japan couldn't speak de english, then i went away for my long week-end. I have confirmation this morning that as soon as it clears customs it's on it's way! about 2 1/2 weeks
Your support during these trying time is much appreciated ( the incense worked Bob-o) send some over the house for the next time dude!!
da goose710

Congrats! Now comes the long wait, the longest time of your life :p I hate orders that take over 2 weeks to get delivered. Everyday though is one step closer to getting it in your hands :)

[Taygrd]

Great news Goose. Glad you got it. It is impressive and exciting to hold that much history and craftsmenship in your hands. Good to know that it found a good home.

[goose710]

Taygrd
Why thank you sir! and all the other well wishers too. will post in depth pics after arival
da goose710

[Sairon]

Another one! Goose you lucky duck (pun intended) how many nihontos do you have now? and the hamon on that sword is quite lame (no offense to the maker) I just don't like boring hamons.

[goose710]

Sairon
This makes three nihonto, and i do agree the hamon on this one is (let me say "tame") but i choose this one because a- it was availible
B-in my price range and C- because it was fully dressed with period koshira. The muromachi period ran (1335-1575) approximately this is an early muromachi and i would guess around 1400(my guess) so i snatched it!also it came with papers. we'll see when i get it up close if i like it or send it back. I have that option always.
and yes i am a "lucky duck" pun intended and accepted! thanks Sairon
da goose710

[bobO]

Yup, It was the incense for sure. Boring, lame, tame, I will not hear off such things about Ni-honto, This sword is a thing of beauty, what the hamon lacks(nothing in my book) the Hada more then makes up for! Good going Goose!! I take it this one will not be going to lohmen's.

[goose710]

Bob-o
once i get to touchy feely the thing i will apraise any future work or not maybe just a tuska wrap i don't know just now.
da goose710

[Mako]

That's a very,very nice sword goose'...looks like it's suriage (been shortened)so any mei would have been lost and I've read that the suguha hamon was more difficult to achieve than some others.
Congratz.=D>

[goose710]

Mako
You are correct on all counts Mako, Thank you for your kind words
da goose710

[Dotanuki]

Another one! Goose you lucky duck (pun intended) how many nihontos do you have now? and the hamon on that sword is quite lame (no offense to the maker) I just don't like boring hamons.

Sairon,
You have really got to learn some sword forum etiquette, you really come across as quite rude and unknowledgeable. This is not the first time you have done this. You appear to be trying to BS your way through this Forum with comments such as this, much like a child trying to have a conversation with men. You are lucky the Forum members are so polite here to allow some of the comments you have made, and indulge you the way they have. On other Forums you would have been ostrasized a long time ago.
I would like to know the credentials you have to proclaim the hamon on that sword is lame. If you don't have any, it is best you shut your mouth and keep your comments to yourself.

[Brian Brazier]

Great to hear everything got worked out Goose, everything appears to be in great condition on this Nihonto, I am eagerly awaiting photos. I have been scoping out prices on a fully dressed Katana w/o papers, and it looks like I should be able to afford one next year, I hope once I have the money the one I am eying is still for sale

[goose710]

Brian
They come and go quite often so if the one you're eyeballin is gone don't dispare they come around all the time. You'll have one and then we'll all be-a droolin!
da goose710

[bobO]

I myself have been quite surprised by the availability and prices of nihonto. I think some day, maybe...! What I like about the old ones, is that for the most part, they are the real battle worthy deal. And every now and then you'll see one with battle damage, to cool!

[goose710]

Yes Bob-o
I've seen some with the battle marks left by the polishers, as a mark of honnor! not as a blemish.
I like the old ones also, for the history they have Imagen, that this small piece of steel (remember they rust easily) has been cared for ,and handed down through many generations of family.Has been appreciated for it's beauty for hundreds of years! nothing like this exists in the states! after all we've only been here a mere 300yrs. also the reverence these family hierlooms are treated to. Hell find a sword from the civil war? don't look half as nice as any nihonto does, no reverence, is the key, respect for the forfathers,respect for the sword!
ah ranting again, but i do feel strongly about this. It seems to be lacking in the here and now . Not just here in the states but to an extent world wide. The old ways , are being lost, money, fast gains, and self gratificating is the norm. Ten year apprenticships?? they laugh at you!!! work for a company two weeks figure they should own it!
Ok enough rant.
Honor the ones that went before
da goose710

[jwilliams]

Goose,
You are 100% on the money with your comments. I truly feel a kinship with so many on this forum. I am humbled by the knowledge and experience so many have.

Sairon,
Dotanuki is right, we chalk it up to inexperience I hope, and I hope you will take as Nansoji has in the past, he has learned. It is really rude to ask anyone how much they pay for anything and I thought Goose was very gracious to you when you asked. If you really want to know how much Nihontos cost, look some up on a web site, ask for a range of what you might expect to pay if you want to buy one, but don't ask someone how much they spent, they spent what it took to get it.

[bobO]

It's not ranting if it needs to be said. I was at a pool party, my friends 81 yr old dad was there, he told me to do something, I jumped on it, then asked if there was anything else, he commented that I knew how to respect my elders. I told him what kind of man would I be if I didn't. Old school I guess?

[Jason Moore]

Not old school, just who you are. I don't think respect is something that is taught, it is a choice.

[Dotanuki]

Not old school, just who you are. I don't think respect is something that is taught, it is a choice.

While I agree that some are born with the common sense to know how to interact with others, with respect and courtesy. As a result are treated with the same respect and courtesy in return.

I have seen respect taught also, my father always taught me to respect my elders, not just by words, but his actions towards his own elders.
My father always told me to make friends with the old-timers, if they like you, you will learn things in life that might take decades otherwise [if ever]. That was his secret of success, by being friends, he did not mean making them your buds, but your teachers. It worked for me my whole life also. It is also working for my son also with the same success.

I have also seen respect taught to the discourteous, by having it beat into them! [literally, with fists]. You would be surprised at the high success rate this method has. [very high!]

[goose710]

Gentlemen
I have recieved word my newest sword has left Japan, should be here I would guess wed/thursday then i'll post a few pic's.
da goose710

[Taygrd]

Looking forward to seeing it. Glad that someone like you got a hold of such a wonderful sword. Caretaker of history-Da Goose!

[goose710]

Taygrd
Yes that would be me!
thanks
Da goose710

[bobO]

You lucky dog. You got to have one great lady!! Couldn't happen to a nicer guy. Can't wait to see your pic's.

[goose710]

Gentlemen
It's here!! it's all i wanted it to be simple blade, nice condition,fittings are ok pictures next
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/7412/dsc01818cq5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/7412/dsc01818cq5.ae58a5150d.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=209&i=dsc01818cq5.jpg)
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/1096/dsc01817hp4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/1096/dsc01817hp4.172750b90b.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=401&i=dsc01817hp4.jpg)
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/6982/dsc01812bh0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/6982/dsc01812bh0.5e3bfbc0a6.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=232&i=dsc01812bh0.jpg)
http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/1219/dsc01814gq9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/1219/dsc01814gq9.8fe16ca062.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=74&i=dsc01814gq9.jpg)
Da happy goose710

[Brian Brazier]

Superb, I really like the Sugu Hamon, allot of people think they are plain, but I would imagine it takes more tallent to do one perfect. Overall it looks to be in great condition, nice tsuba, the fittings appear to be in good condition, the saya looks great, good buy my friend. You got any plans for it? If I quite buying everything that catches my eye, I could probably save up enough to buy a decent Katana one of these days

[goose710]

Brian
I thought to replace the ito because it's quite stained and worn, but my wife likes it that way . She says it should look like that as old as it is.
Truth be told, the tuska is a little loose from wear, but , what i might do is have another one made, but then it'll need to use the (hard ware) and i'll lose the tuska anyway. So i'll leave it be i like it,hamon is pretty cool really, it has that shadow just behind the hamon line , there's a name for that but it excapes me now. It's sharp,and polished well, a loose fold maybe (line in the hada) but not open
Actually it was quite reasonable over all, considering any tsuba is worth $500.00. the habaki is two piece silver gold washed (i think) which would indicate a bit upscale ?? copper being the norm??
I'm happy with it.
da goose710
Brian, first believe you'll have a nihonto, then, it shall happen! seems to work for me, you'll make it happen if you think you can.

[jwilliams]

Incredible, you are very fortunate to have 2 great treasures, your wife and the sword.

[goose710]

"J"
Why thank you sir!
da goose710

[bobO]

Very nice! When you pick this wak up how does it feel, compared to your production wak? And if someone where to make you a stand for this, how far apart would you want the arms of the stand?

[tanukimario]

Ooh wow, that's a really nice looking piece! The hamon is especially really beautiful! =P~

[Mako]

That looks and really is outstanding goose'...personally I like the old 'wrap',I think it gives the sword a certain character somehow but that's just my personal opinion and I know from past experience that whatever you decide to do will be no injustice to a work of art.

[Taygrd]

Wow, I love it. The saya has a great finish and texture to it, it looks awesome. I have to agree with the wife Goose, leave the ito. I think the character of the sword would change if you replaced it( Just my opinion). What a beautiful sword, the suguha hamon was made for cutting and preferred for cutting test by the Yamanos. You got a real beauty there!

"it has that shadow just behind the hamon line , there's a name for that but it excapes me now" Goose
Utsuri

[goose710]

For all your kind words i thank you (bow)
Bob-o
feels really good! a bit beefier than my chen feels solid! but you'll have to feel for your self one day dude!

Mako/Taygrd The wrap shall stay as it is, i too now feel it would detract from it's personality! And thank you taygrd "Utsuri" is what i'm seeing there i can't keep all the sword terms streight, but i'm lazy and i know it.

Tanukimario I'm normally drawn to a more wild hamon, but this one has grown on me these last two days.
Again i thank you all for your kind comments
da goose710

[goose710]

Gentlemen
a few pictures of the wak broken down, and a request for translation??
does anyone know how to read the signiture on this tsuba??
http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/9480/dsc01907ou7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/9480/dsc01907ou7.1feae2093b.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=375&i=dsc01907ou7.jpg)

also i thought you guys might be interested to see this two piece habaki it's gold foiled cool


http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/7303/dsc01918cf2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/7303/dsc01918cf2.bc215d9e9b.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=401&i=dsc01918cf2.jpg)


http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/5126/dsc01919kn0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/5126/dsc01919kn0.4d50acbef4.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=395&i=dsc01919kn0.jpg)

da gooseman

[Brian Brazier]

very nice goose, that tsuba is in excellent condition, and I really like the two piece habaki.

[tanukimario]

Very nice! What i'm wondering though is why are there three holes in the tang but on the tsuka, there's only one? I've been curious about that since i've seen this on a lot of antique Japanese katanas...

[goose710]

Tanukimario
The three holes are from at least three shortnings in the past the thing is like 600yrs old and over the years different guys have had it made shorter to suite them. that's why the three holes it's no big deal just lost the signiture if it ever had one is all
da gooseman

[bobO]

Proves the old saying, a thing of beauty is a joy forever. Very nice Goose, thanks for sharing.

[the blade master]

you sure know how to pick them goose well done enjoy:ohyeah:

[Taygrd]

Gentlemen
a few pictures of the wak broken down, and a request for translation??
does anyone know how to read the signiture on this tsuba??
http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/9480/dsc01907ou7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/9480/dsc01907ou7.1feae2093b.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=375&i=dsc01907ou7.jpg)

also i thought you guys might be interested to see this two piece habaki it's gold foiled cool


http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/7303/dsc01918cf2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/7303/dsc01918cf2.bc215d9e9b.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=401&i=dsc01918cf2.jpg)


http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/5126/dsc01919kn0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/5126/dsc01919kn0.4d50acbef4.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=395&i=dsc01919kn0.jpg)

da gooseman
Next time edit your damb toes out of it=))

[goose710]

Taygard
My wife likes my hairy toes! so there!
da gooseman

[the blade master]

dont quote me on this as near as i can read it it says made in hong kong for hairy toed goose

[zentredi]

great find gooseman =P~=P~=P~

[Caliper]

I'm actually a fan of the suguha hamon

I'm still in awe of the koshirae :-O

[Torawashi]

Goose; I believe that's where a chicken walked across the tsuba before the metal was cooled......mmmm i'm really enjoying listening to this Venusian gas music.........