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Taygrd
December 15th, 2007, 04:05 PM
Sometimes cruising the internet late at night leads to some regrettable purchases. A few days later when the UPS driver arrives at your door with your newest impulse buy you wonder “what was I thinking?” I actually did do a little research before purchasing the Musashi Katana. Not a true impulse buy, more like an informed whim. The description on the Swords of Might website contained statements like “well balanced” and “good cutter”. For fifty dollars I felt that if it was trash I could grind down the edge and use it as a decoration. It did look pretty cool in the pictures. Comparing prices to the competitors Swords of Might was again the best deal being nine to twenty-nine dollars cheaper than all others. Sold!!
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It was not to long before the UPS guy showed up at the door with that long brown box. It was packaged nicely with no deformities. It is always nice to receive a sword in the mail that does not have three inches of steel sticking out the side of the box. The katana itself was placed in a cardboard box wrapped in its sword bag with styrofoam collars keep it from moving around. The saya and the tsuka were in good shape with no scratches or damage. The first inspection showed that the blade was snug inside the saya and came out with minimal pressure. Upon inspection of the blade there was no rusting or pitting thanks to the protective oil applied to it. All of the fittings were tight and there was no rattle or flimsy construction. It felt good in the hands and the tsuka allowed for a firm grip. The weight of 2.25 pounds made it feel quick in my hands.
The Blade
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The length of the blade is 27” of carbon steel and a little over ¼” thick. I would say that this blade has a tori zori, or the blade has an even curve throughout it’s length. This allows the cutting edge to remain in contact with the target longer. The mune or spine is roof shaped or iori mune and is ground evenly down the spine to the sword point. Etched hamon are very common in blades of this price range, and this blade is no exception. The etch is done nicely in a notare hamon which is basically smooth waves. As with almost every etched blade I have seen, the hamon terminates at the kissaki or point. The shinogi, or ridgeline, of the blade was also even throughout its length and only on close inspection could one see that the grind was not flat throughout in one section. I will mention the habaki or brass collar in the blade section since I did not remove it from the blade for inspection. It was well fitted to the blade and has the Musashi logo on the omote side. The fit between the habaki and saya was snug enough to ensure the blade did not fall out when inverted but loose enough to draw the sword with slight pressure from your thumb. The point of balance is about 6 1/2" from the tsuba on the blade. The balance feels really good and this make the blade easy to control. The center of percussion is a little difficult for me to place. All of the cuts that I made where within first 18" of the blade. I have cut with swords before that vibrate on every cut. I have even cut with some that feel like you skulled a golf ball, however the Musashi was smooth every cut. I attempted to find the CoP by stiking the pommel and it resulted in the whole blade moving with no observable vibration point. So I dare not speculate on it's location, but I will take any advice on the subject.

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I wanted to completely disassemble the sword to get a good look at the construction. After removing the two mekugi, I held the sword in my left hand and pounded my left with the right three times. That was sufficient to loosen the tsuka from the nakago or tang for inspection. There were no markings on the nakago and it was built very traditionally. After pulling it all apart you look at it and say “yeah, that’s what they look like”. It went back together just as easy as it came apart. No glue or shims just traditional construction techniques. Just the blade alone I felt was worth the fifty dollars spent.

The Koshirae
The saya has a nice gloss finish to it and the sageo was wrapped in the formal style. The sageo itself was a decent knit material that did not have that “fuzzy” look to it. This saya has a metal throat or koiguchi that is plain with no decorative accents and serves to protect the saya. Such a koiguchi is not common; however I kind of preferred it on this sword since it added extra protection and support to the saya. One aspect of the saya that was odd to me was the kurikata that holds the sageo in place. It was a square construction rather than the more graceful rounded style. Overall I was well pleased with scabbard and this katana kept on getting better in my eyes.
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The tsuba in one of the descriptions was purported to be steel construction. With a quick test of a magnet it was confirmed as gospel. There is something very sexy about a double ring steel guard, and this was a major purchase point for me. The tsuba was evenly ground, symmetrical, and I feel was of a good quality. The patina on the tsuba was a little light but not enough to distract from the rest of the sword. It was roughly 3” across and just under ¼” thick. The seppas are of brass construction and were an exact match and fit well.
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Your inexpensive swords usually suffer a little in tsuka and this katana was no exception. I know what you are thinking -“no kidding Sport, a fifty buck sword that has a cheap handle”, but I ask that you read to the end. The fuchi and kashira are of an alloy material and still have the cast lines visible on the sides. The builder tried to hide the cast line on the top of the kashira by applying it to a grinder and now you have an obvious grind line over the top. Both were made of an alloy and had a black patina that was evenly applied.

They must make this inexpensive ito in the same place for all low end swords, and this one has that fuzzy shoe string appearance. The wrap was fairly even and was glued in place along the top and bottom of the handle. The handle measures 10 ¾” from the fuchi to the top of the kashira. Well by now you may have guessed that the same gawa is not real rayskin, but it is admirable attempt at it. The fake same was uniform in the size of the nodules and has a rubber feel to it. The mekugi are bamboo and the double peg is great to have in a sword that cuts. Breaking from tradition the mekugi were driven in from the ura side.
The menuki are identical dragons of the same alloy as the fuchi and kashira. I must admit that they are well cast and the patina looks great on them. Both menuki were glued firmly in place and positioned correctly in the tsuka
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Overall the tsuka was solidly built and did not have any gaps between the ito and components. I feel that almost anyone would be pleased with the appearance of this sword when considering the cost.
Now to put my money where my mouth is: I have every intention of replacing the fake same with real same gawa and replacing the ito, fuchi and kashira just to meet my personal preferences. Why? This is a really good little sword. I was not sure what to expect but after pulling it apart piece by piece I found the Musashi to be a great bargain for the price. Still not convinced? Well to be honest I was not either at this point. Then I took the sword outside to meet Mr. Pumpkin.

The Cutting Test
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Every year we receive a large assortment of pumpkins for Halloween and Thanksgiving. They are set out on the porch for decoration, and I begrudgingly give a few up to be carved as jack-o-lanterns. The rest are horded for the annual cutting test. Pumpkins are good for cutting since they cannot damage the sword and the cut will show the sharpness of the blade. If the blade is not sharp it will tear instead of cut it and will bog down in the target. The pumpkins ranged from 20 to 10 inches in diameter and have about an inch to two inch rind. I was able to get about four to five cuts on each pumpkin and cut up three of them before I remembered to take pictures with the camera. The first cut went through with little force and so easily that it left the top of the pumpkin still sitting on the base. The rest of the cuts on the other three pumpkins had the same results with no damage to the blade and it still retained a sharp edge. It cut like a pro. After cutting the four pumpkins I was grinning like a jack-o-lantern. Off to the corner a few tree saplings aroused my wrath and the sword made quick work of them as well. Each cut was smooth and there was no damage to the cutting edge after slicing through ¾ to 1 inch saplings. A couple of days later I set up some water bottles to cut through for some video footage. I placed three bottles in a row and the Musashi katana made a clean cut through them all.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=23TIJVhdKqI
As I have said before the blade alone was worth the money spent. It retains its edge remarkably well as I have yet to lay a stone to it.
Overall
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There is no way one can compare a low end sword to your top shelf katanas, and I do not intend to attempt it here. I must say that when handling this sword I feel that it well worth its cost and more. The fit and finish is better than I would have expected and the blade is sharp and fun to work with. To have a sword that retains its edge well and can be used without the fear of marring a high dollar weapon is great. The one area that the katana suffers a little is the tsuka, but that is the trade off of an inexpensive sword. The tsuka however was solidly built and holds up well under use. Even after I disassembled the katana and reassembled it the sword was still solid. I would never say that this is a cheap sword, but one heck of a buy for the money. It was sharp right out of the box and is a good looking katana. When comparing cost to quality I would rank this one 5 out of 5. I found the Musashi Katana to be functional and fun. Hats off to Swords of Might for selling a good katana, fast shipping, and an awesome selection of swords in all price ranges!

bobO
December 15th, 2007, 04:25 PM
That my friend was an outstanding review.I look at these reviews as a consumer,does this review help me if I wanted to buy this sword.Does the person who is writing the review know what there talking about,or are they just thrilled to death to have a piece of sharp steel that looks like a sword?Does the review give me enough info to make a more informed purchase?Is it easy to read and understand.Does it have pictures,that helps but if well written,not essential.In my humble opinion this review fullfills all the above.Thank you Taygrd for sharing.

Taygrd
December 15th, 2007, 04:33 PM
Thanks BobO. It does have pictures but the geocities website is not working so the pictures will not show up. :-O I almost pulled my hair out once I saw the images were not displaying. Hopefully they will be up soon. Thanks again.

bobO
December 16th, 2007, 09:00 AM
Houston,we have pictures.O-kay that really fills out the review.The only thing I see missing is pob&cop.The balance pnt is easy to find and helpful info.the cop is something I have a hard time finding on most of my swords.How in the world did you get the menuki out?IMHO(which don't mean much)your in the running.for first prize.I'm glad I don't have to pick a winner.I'm with Dotanuki,in that I think your all winners.All in all,not bad for a hooligan.

Taygrd
December 16th, 2007, 10:18 AM
I managed to crash my website before getting the pictures up:( It was worth it though, I really enjoyed writing this. Please excuse me for leaving out the Point of Balance and Center of Percussion, I have never written one of these before. Is it inappropriate to go back and edit the thread or is answering it here good enough?

The point of balance is about 6 1/2" from the tsuba on the blade. The balance feels really good and this make the blade easy to control. The center of percussion is a little difficult for me to place. All of the cuts that I made where within first 18" of the blade. I have cut with swords before that vibrate on every cut. I have even cut with some that feel like you skulled a golf ball, however the Musashi was smooth every cut.
I attempted to find the CoP by stiking the pommel and it resulted in the whole blade moving with no observable vibration point. So I dare not speculate on it's location, but I will take any advice on the subject.
The menuki were easy to get out once you take a razor to the ito. I have already started rebuilding the tsuka. Once the review was finnished I wanted to personalize the sword which is something I really enjoy. Thank you agian, I have found everyone on this site very helpful and knowledgeable.

Mako
December 16th, 2007, 03:07 PM
You can edit your review at any time but it would be useful to let people know.;)

Jason Moore
December 17th, 2007, 10:57 AM
I agree with Bobo, excellent review! I kinda wished to see that pumpkin sliced though :)

rick
December 18th, 2007, 12:18 AM
how much does it cost

bobO
December 18th, 2007, 08:27 AM
Taygrd,I hope you keep us posted on the progress.For your first reveiw,heck if it was your 10th reveiw, awesome.If you ever fiqure out COP let me know willya.

Taygrd
December 18th, 2007, 01:37 PM
Thanks Jason and bobO. I wish I had thought of getting a video camera sooner for the pumpkin cutting. I got excited about the sword and wanted to test it but I left the video camera at work. I am sure I will get either this sword or another on tape dispatching a pumpkin in the future.
I am going to experiment trying to find the cop on this sword. It is hard since this one does not have a distal taper to it. Anyone have any opinions or ideas please comment.
Thanks again, this is a very warm welcome. The are a few other forums sites out there that have too many egos floating around-not this one, that is refreshing.
Rick-The cost of the sword was $50 plus shipping.

Jason Moore
December 19th, 2007, 12:14 PM
We are happy to have you here and hope you stay around to post some more! :)

rick
December 19th, 2007, 05:50 PM
jason do ou carry that sword????? and how are you about phone orders?????

Jason Moore
December 19th, 2007, 07:24 PM
Did you read the review? He bought it from us...

http://www.swordsofmight.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=297

We will be happy to accomodate your phone in orders...we take them all day looooong.

rick
December 19th, 2007, 10:06 PM
sorry I just skimmed the review as soon as I get paid I'll pick one up

gombei
April 23rd, 2008, 02:35 AM
I guess Musashi has quality control issues or they wholesale factory seconds to eBay sellers. Probably a good argument to only purchase swords from places like Swords of Might or other online merchants that have a web presence.

The Mushashi Katana by Musashi that I purchased from eBay is not snug in the saya. If I do the the no-no of lowering the tsuka below the saya, the blade will slip out.

I bought this blade for my son and he attempted to take the sword apart. He says that the mekugi comes out but he was unable to loosen the tsuka from the nakago. He reported that it fells like it's glued in.

Just my 2 cents worth.

Taygrd
April 23rd, 2008, 08:32 AM
Hard to say if the ebay sword was a second or bad quality control. I have three Musashi swords and the saya fit was snug on all three and I have been able to remove the tsuka on all of them. One thing about SOM is that Jason makes sure his customers are happy.

Jason Moore
April 23rd, 2008, 12:47 PM
I try my best. It is not like noone has ever been unhappy with a sword from me as I don't make them. But if something goes wrong I am willing to try to make it right. And the nicer a customer is to me, the nicer I am to them.:king:

lightningstrike
June 16th, 2008, 11:36 AM
For what its worth I'm a new member to the Forum, and to Katanas in general (my training weapon of choice before this was a Warhammer so its a new kind of weapon for me) and I recently purchased the same blade from Swords of Might. Even put my review up of it. It is a truely amazing sword in my oppinion but the edge was not as good as I wanted it. Being tested on light and heavy cardboard it just didn't have the honed cutting power I wanted in a blade. I went out and got an AccuKnife sharpener, and I'm sure others will dissagree with this idea, and put a much better edge on it (probably around 100 sharpenings before I was satisfied) now it has a proper fighting edge. I've given it a good test run on a many folded layer cardboard target I created using some American Ingenuity and plenty of Duct Tape to hold it togather, and then to a chair to weight it. I've found that with some weighting, or stability, to a target the Musashi not only cuts, but cuts WELL if the edge is decent. Its a stable sword that doesn't set on a bad cut (and I've had plenty of those) and seems capable in the hands.

Remember, this is the oppinion of a TRUE amature. As my skills have grown even slightly so has the efficieny of this blade. I imagine in the hands of someone halfway competant this would be a truely awe inspiring weapon.

Oh and the most recent cut cleaved a good 6 inches of cardboard, layerd at around 6 layers thick. Its realy a matter of target stability in a lot of situations like this. Taking a lighter piece of cardboard and a less than perfect technique will cause it to bend as the blade pushes the cardboard instead of slicing it. Taking against a waterbottle (especially without water in it as I tested) might not get you the results your looking for as the bottles are prone to flight then.

Sorry if that was a bit of a ramble, just felt like throwing my ten cents in the sword.

Jason Moore
June 17th, 2008, 11:49 AM
Welcome to the forum and glad the sword is working out for you!

Taygrd
June 19th, 2008, 09:50 AM
Welcome to SOM, we are very pleased to have you here. The Musashi is still one of my favorites. It holds an edge well. I have noticed even with my own blades that some are sharper than others due to varying factors. I am glad that you were able to get a good edge on the blade. Should hold up well.

lightningstrike
June 19th, 2008, 02:59 PM
Figured I'd come back and update everyone a bit. I'd been worried that maybe I spoke to soon about the edge being sharp. Well I had, but luckily Paul Southern of Sword Buyers Guide had put a video up on youtube about sword sharpening with the AcuuSharp. While I had a basic edge on from my own meathods, what I realy needed was 10 good minutes and a much firmer press to bring out a truely devastating blade. I've been practicing with pool noodles for my cutting (free standing) and while I'm insufficiently skilled to do a horizontal cut, I can do a basic diagonal and even an upward cut fairly well. Anyway, back to the point at hand, after putting a razors edge on it (one that can cut paper held tightly and flat to the blade) I proceded to test this on my third and last pool noodle.

Now mind you, up till this point I've been swinging like a combination Axe Man/Baseball player. Not the ideal cutting motion but I needed the extra power. This time though I felt confident enough to use a more relaxed swing. Low and behold, once the musashi has a razor edge it not only goes through the pool noodle quickly, it did it with such ease I was thrown off balance with shock. I had to try it again, and it cut like a dream. I even managed to penetrate 90% of the way on a side ways swing (downright amazing in my oppinion considering my skill level).

Now, my next question as silly as it might have been was "is the blade still sharp" well, I took out another piece of papper and tested it on the far and near edge both. Both times a clean, easy cut.

This is my first real sword, and I'm very pleased with the way its held up and performed. Likewise while some may think the need to add a bit more edge to such a blade was a major problem, for me I found it a kind of harmonization with the weapon its self.

I just can't say enough good things about this sword. Thank you Jason for keeping possibly one of the best Katanas in the price range at most assuredly the best price on the net.

And thank you for the warm welcome!

Jason Moore
June 19th, 2008, 05:56 PM
This sword has consistantly been a best seller and I can see why. Enjoy and again, welcome.

Oh, and happy b-day! (If the forum has it right!)

bobO
June 19th, 2008, 06:03 PM
Welcome. It's good that you have more confidence in your sword now. You can ease up on the power now(no going off balance) and work on proper form. Horizontal cuts are tough no doubt about it. Happy B-day!

jwilliams
June 19th, 2008, 06:36 PM
Welcome to forum, Happy Birthday and that is a cool Avatar and name.

Brian Brazier
June 19th, 2008, 10:09 PM
Happy Birthday, welcome to the forum. I think you will find that every time you cut pool noodles it is a unique experience, reason being that not all pool noodles are created equal, some have (for lack of a better word) loose foam, and are not as dense as some noodles, these will be the most troublesome to cut even with a razor sharp sword. They just don't have enough structure and often break before being cut, my Mom recently bought me some loose noodles and I have been having a hard time getting any of my swords to cut them. If you really enjoy cutting, I would suggest picking up some of the roll up beach mats like Jason sells on SOM, if your lucky your local dollar store or super discount store will have some since it is early summer, I just picked up a box of 50 for a $1 a piece at our local Big Lots. These beach mats are the second best thing you can cut next to Tatami Mats, they give the user great feedback both visually and through the blade (if you cut one you will see what I mean), and they are uniform in size, density, and length. If you get a chance to pick some up soak them in water overnight at least 8 hours, take them out and let them drain for an hour or so, and cut away, I guarantee you won't ever want to go back to pool noodles

lightningstrike
June 20th, 2008, 12:13 AM
Thank you for the Happy Birthday wishes everyone its been a good birthday with lots of blade honing and lots of cutting. The names been part of my online Identity since I was a kid. Amazing how things like that stick with you over the years.

Brian:

My only question would be one of if the matts spray when cut. I live in the city in a town where the use of swords out on your porch (no yard), and most likely your yard, will get you arrested for "Brandishing a weapon with intent to use in public". The irony being of course "Yes I intend to use it, on the matts". Point being though, I do most of my cutting inside the house (hence the watter bottles have not been a target yet). Also, should I get a stand, at this point I'm seriously considering one of the SOM Stands even for the pool noodles as I am doubly convinced target stability is part of whats destroying my side cut. In general I think the free standing noodles are moving a bit to much when cut. Likewise, pool noodles are running the same price as the Beach Matts at SOM in my area so I might be picking them up here now if I can't find them in the area.

Before I forget also, when you say soak them, do you mean unroll and soak, or soak and keep rolled?

Again thanks for the warm welcomes everyone !

Brian Brazier
June 20th, 2008, 01:32 AM
I really don't suggest doing any cutting inside, I would suggest anyone doing some cutting either purchase one like the SOM one, or build one (which is what I did) here are some instructions http://tameshigiri.com/assets/target_stand.pdf http://tameshigiri.com/make_a_stand.html. As for the Beach mats splintering, it does happen, the best way to avoid it is when you roll it up use several rubber bands to hold it together (the more the less splintering points you will have). When it comes to rolling the mats I use the roll it with a dowel method http://tameshigiri.com/folding3.htm, roll the mat around the dowel, secure the roll with rubber bands, and remove the dowel. You must first roll the mats then soak them, it cannot be done the other way, I use a plastic tub (the long flat style that slide under the bed), unless you really like cleaning your bathtub I would stick with the plastic bins, I would also suggest that you store your mats in a plastic bin cause they really stink (kinda like a pungent alfalfa)