sword lamination

[69NINJA]

I just thought this was interesting, I didnt know there were that many forms of lamination.

http://www.geocities.com/alchemyst/laminate.htm

also i didnt know the "maru" lamination that some sites seem to use as a selling point means non-laminated.


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[Brian Brazier]

I was aware there were a couple but I had no idea there was that many thank for the link there's alot of info there

[Richard Johnson]

Generally, as i understand it, the lamination was developed because Japan had really bad iron and needed to do something to make that poor metal into a decent sword.
With modern mettalurgy and super-steels, that isn't necessary anymore.
Still... there is something about my folded steel katana that just 'feels' better than my spring steel or RR-track steel katana, even though all three are equal in all qualities.

I have found though that a lot of cheapie sellers will use borderline terms to imply that their swords are excellent.
"Battle Ready" whatever that means.
"Fully Hardened" which mean 'shatters like glass'.
"po-Edo" to imply it is old when that actually means modern.
and so on.

Sometimes you have to be an expert to just avoud the frauds.

[Bladeaddict]

But according to Zheng-wu.com

1 maru usually hrc 48e/48b: mono steel
2 kobuse hrc 58e/42b: 2 types of steel
3 san-mai hrc 56e/41b: 2 types of steel
4 hon san-mai hrc 60e/45b:3 types of metal (iron used on spine)
5 Shihozume hrc 60e/45b: 4 types (iron used)
i don't know if this is correct but i have seen the terms "maru" and "San-mai" on several other sites so....:-/

[Kissaki]

I remember one of my nihonto handbooks covering this, But I guess it never sunk in. ^^; Interesting little tidbit on Masamune there...

[69NINJA]

I just thought this was interesting, I didnt know there were that many forms of lamination.

http://home.earthlink.net/~steinrl/laminate.htm

also i didnt know the "maru" lamination that some sites seem to use as a selling point means non-laminated.

ok i realize i'm quoting myself here but i have a reason:

Mako, ( wherever you are :-? ) is this link from your site???
i was just looking around on the old forum and was reading your profile and saw this site listed, is it yours? its amazing.

[Jason Moore]

Mako and Dotanuki have yet to join us here, unless they changed their names...Lets find them and make sure they get here :torch:

[Kissaki]

Witch hunt! :torch: I mean... OLDBIE HUNT!!! :dwarf: Has joelybob joined yet? Let's get him too :D

[Jason Moore]

Witch hunt! :torch: I mean... OLDBIE HUNT!!! :dwarf: Has joelybob joined yet? Let's get him too :D

Mako is here... Dotanuki is still MIA and I have no idea where that crazed man joelybob is 8-}

[Kissaki]

Mako is here... Dotanuki is still MIA and I have no idea where that crazed man joelybob is 8-}
We shall find them... Eventually... B-)

[Mako]

Mako, ( wherever you are :-? ) is this link from your site???
i was just looking around on the old forum and was reading your profile and saw this site listed, is it yours? its amazing.
Nah...it's not my site,I wish I was that knowledgable...it belongs to Dr Rick Stein who is regarded as being one of the World's leading authorities on Nihonto and it's where I get a lot of information from and you're right...it is amazing.;)