Turok Son of Stone

[illmade2]

http://www.valiantcomics.com/valiant/CD/GoldKey/Turok/turok053.jpgOk this is one for those of us who are old enough to remember 1950's and 60's comic books and those Golden days of Saturday morning cartoons, back in the days of non-pc Looney Toons, The Herculoids, Space Ghost (Pre-catroon netwoork), those glory days when Hanna Barbara was king...yes boys and girls there was something before Anime!!!
In the 50's-60's Dell Comics AKA Golden Key put out Turok Son of Stone a comic about the adventures of a Native American trapped in a prehistoric age...Ok pretty common fare for those days but quite well done...
Recently I had the pleasure of seeing a movie length cartoon of the same title. I was more than pleasantly surprise not to see a Anime version of a classic from my childhood. What I did see was a Cartoon (not a bad word) that while being updated still had the feel of those cartoons of the past...
I have to recommend this one to anyone who loved either the comics or those early Saturday morning cartoons.

(http://www.valiantcomics.com/valiant/CD/GoldKey/Turok/turok053.jpg)

[bobO]

Wow 12cents for that one. I remember paying only a dime. I'll look for this. Saturday morning, boy do I miss that.

[Dotanuki]

Yeah Turok was a favorite of mine also back then, I believe Turok had a revival in the 90's by Valiant comics. I always wanted to be a comic artist, or writer for that matter! Almost bought a comic shop back in the 80's or was it the late 70's?
I will have to look up this movie.

Anybody remember the old Clutch Cargo and Space Angel cartoons?
They were B&W and the cartoon characters had human mouths superimposed on them to make them look like they were talking for real!

[illmade2]

Well bobO I think you might be just a tad older than me...when they were under the straight Dell logo they were 10 cents the price went up under Golden Key..
Dotanuki the only thing I really remember about those was the mouths freaked me out.
I have to say that Johny Quest was one of my all time favorites...
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e202/illmade2/COMICADjohnnyquest.jpg

[illmade2]

Found a trailer for Turok
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBtTqOW5TBw

[Torawashi]

....remember Turok well, but he wasn't a "native American", he was an Indian. hell, I'M a native American as well as anyone who was born in the U.S.A. In my day all comics were ten cents. I used to like Mighty Mouse.....Oil Can Harry was my favorite villain.

[illmade2]

Ok OK I was trying to be PC not something easy for a old dog....So yes he was a Indian just like my Grandma only she was meaner....

[Dotanuki]

The next thing you know, you guys will be telling me Turok's full name is Turok Singh. Come to think of it, he may of been the guy who answered the phone when I called for information, (Although he told me his name was Tom Smith, I could tell he was lying from his accent!) =))
You know, I can remember when Gen. Custer used to be an American hero. Now he is a war criminal, who deserved what he got, I quess I should be happy, at least they didn't make him gay.
(Custer was one of my childhood hero's.)
I just read the other day, about speculation that Lincoln was gay, I believe this world has truely gone mad, beginning to remind me of the last days of the Roman Empire.

Do you guys remember the other character back then? I believe his name was Kona, King of Monarch Isle. He was a Tarzan like character, who I also believed lived in a lost middle world.

When I was young, I used to read Edgar Rice Burroughs, surprisingly enough, I never read Tarzan (Although I did see every Tarzan movie ever made, silent one's too) I used to read John Carter of Mars and Carson of Venus, timeless classics, now almost forgotton.
Later I became a fan of R.E. Howard, creator of Conan, He also wrote historical fiction that was really good, stories of Tamerlame and mongols and other medieval era historical fiction.

[Taygrd]

Funny about how they speculate about people 100's of years later. There is a picture of Custer after one of the early battles of the Civil War which is one of my favorites. He is sitting next to a Confederate Lt. which they had captured. Custer and CS Lt. where classmates and friends from West Point. I need to see if the CS Lt. made it through the war, but the picture exemplified that war.
My favorite Custer story involved a group of Union officers including McClellen debating how deep a stream was and if the infantry could cross. The debate dragged on till Custer lost pateince (McClellen was a bit thick in my opinion) and rode is horse into the stream. Stopping midstream he turned to McClellen and said "General, the water is this deep!"
We now have the leasure to judge such men. At the time they were the ones who held the country together. You cannot judge men of antiquity by modern standards, it is not fair to history nor to that person. Custer was a soldier, a dandy maybe, but still a soldier following orders. You must know the entire historical context of the times. Once that has been studied and digested you see the truth of the matter. Today they teach the kids the current PC instead of the hard truths. If you forget history or make it pretty-you are bound to repeat it's mistakes. Funny to hear a kid say Sam Houston was a crook and stole Texas. If you are going to judge a man you had betted be damb sure you know what you are talking about.:ranting:

[illmade2]

Read them all, Howard was and is one of my favorite authors, his characters and settings were always so vivid. El Borak, Solomon Kane, Bran Mak Morn, Too bad most people only know Conan...

[illmade2]

Funny about how the speculate about people 100's of years later. There is a picture of Custer after one of the early battles of the Civil War which is one of my favorites. He is sitting next to a Confederate Lt. which they had captured. Custer and CS Lt. where classmates and friends from West Point. I need to see if the CS Lt. made it through the was, but the picture exemplified that war.
My favorite Custer story involved a group of Union officers including McClellen debating how deep a stream was and if the infantry could cross. The debate dragged on till Custer lost pateince (McClellen was a bit thick in my opinion) and rode is horse into the stream. Stopping midstream he turned to McClellen and said "General, the water is this deep!"
We now have the leasure to judge such men. At the time they were the ones who held the country together. You cannot judge men of antiquity by modern standards, it is not fair to history nor to that person. Custer was a soldier, a dandy maybe, but still a soldier following orders. You must know the entire historical context of the times. Once that has been studied and digested you see the truth of the matter. Today they teach the kids the current PC instead of the hard truths. If you forget history or make it pretty-you are bound to repeat it's mistakes. Funny to hear a kid say Sam Houston was a crook and stole Texas. If you are going to judge a man you had betted be damb sure you know what you are talking about.:ranting:


There were men who were products of their time, and then there were real villains...the problem is in our current PC view of history we don't separate the two.. Custer may have been a lot of things but was he a real villain? Who's to say, he did what was acceptable for his time in history...personally I think he was a arrogant *** but so are a lot of people.
Bowie was a swindler too, but he had a great knife:)

[bobO]

Err... Hello... Saturday morning? Yes Johnny Quest was also one of my fav's. There was Abbot & Costello the little rascals. Then The cliff hangers, Rocket man, Buck Rogers( with Buster crab). Sunday was the US farm report( I was a weird kid) and Wonder ramma. Don't forget the Bowery boys.

[Taygrd]

Err... Hello... Saturday morning?
Sorry Dots post put me into a rant:-O. Did not mean to hijack your thread. And now we return to days past....................................

[illmade2]

and then you had Sunday morning, Mr Magoo, UnderDog, Fractured FairyTales, Rocky and Bullwinkle...Oh those were the days...
I loved Rocket Man (re-runs of course) the Lone Ranger, the Cisco Kid (talk about non-PC) and when the weather was right and I could get the rabbit ears just so, roller derby and Chop Socky Movies on the Cedar Rapids station...Oh boy

[Dotanuki]

Yep, remember how your parents used to make you get up to change the channel? =(
Thank goodness there were only 3 at the time! :)

[bobO]

Thats what little brothers are for. No problem Tay, I was just waxing nostalgic.

[illmade2]

Didn't have to when Dad got the new "COLOR" TV the old black and white one got sent to my room, so what it there were only half a dozen shows broadcast in color....he changed his own channels...and then came the remote, you know the one with the fifteen foot wire that you tripped over every time you walked by...

[Taygrd]

I had a Curtis Mathis B/W TV and I use to get up early Saturday to watch Hong Kong Fuey.:)

[illmade2]

Thanks Taygrd now that theme songs going to be in my head!!!!

[Taygrd]

I forgot all about HKF till you all started this thread=))

[Torawashi]

George Armstrong Custer was, is, and always will be one of my personal heroes. He was brilliant, if a little headstrong, in the American Civil War and our greatest Indian fighter in the 1870s. The only way to defeat the Plains Indians was to catch them holed up in their winter camps and ambush them while they were immobile. Everyone seems to remember the "poor Indians" but not the atrocities committed against the white settlers. I'll tell you true, Kansans have not forgotten. The Plains Indians had no more title to the land than anyone else. How do you think they got it? They stole it from other Indians.

Dot, I didn't know you were around for the last days of the Roman Empire =)).....and here I thought I was the oldest one here.....

[illmade2]

and you're one of mine Torawashi, but Custer was still a *** but thats just my opinion:evilbat:. Im more of a Crocket and Boone kind of guy...from the old family stomping grounds ya know...Mom even swears we're related to Boone but I say she was smoking to much rabbit tobaco as a kid..And now back to the good old days...

PS Tora I'm not picking a fight (you'ld win):blackeye: just being a pain in the butt

[Torawashi]

and you're one of mine Torawashi, but Custer was still a *** but thats just my opinion:evilbat:. Im more of a Crocket and Boone kind of guy...from the old family stomping grounds ya know...Mom even swears we're related to Boone but I say she was smoking to much rabbit tobaco as a kid..And now back to the good old days...

PS Tora I'm not picking a fight (you'ld win):blackeye: just being a pain in the butt

Illmade; thank you for the compliment.....Custer was what he was, an officer and all military officers are the same, they'd stab their own mother in the back to further their own career......Dan'l Boone is one of my heroes too!

[bobO]

I worked at a place called Tree haven farms in Lexington KY. The guy that lived behind the yearling barn was a direct ancestor of DB, he raised pigeons so we talked a lot. A very cool dude.

[Taygrd]

Some of my favorites include Crockett, J. L. Chamberlain, and "theres the devel to pay" Buford. Kit Carson, don't forget him.

[illmade2]

Here's one for you Taygrd, By the Late Great Scatman Crothers http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CW54W9y6-eU

[Taygrd]

Ill2 that was great. I loved that show. My mom use to take us shopping from time to time(that was an ordeal-3 Boys) to JC Penney in downtown. One time she lost me and I went around Hong Kong Phooeying all of the maniquins. Knocked off about four hands and arms before she caught me. Both my older brothers were laughing pretty hard which I think only increased my spanking pusnishment. Ahhh.......the good old days. Thanks for finding that, it made my day.

[illmade2]

Woops!!!