competition fighting

[rayskin]

i have done some competative martial arts in the past and was curious of other peoples expiriances with it. i personaly was never anything special but i had fun till i started losing teeth.

[Brian Brazier]

Ahh, who needs teeth when you can liquefy nearly any meal.

[rayskin]

sadly it still gets stuck in the straw when your jaws wired shut.

[FrozenIpaq]

I've competed in a few tournaments myself and found the majority of them alright. The only complaint I have about tournaments are the sparring matches. I've competed in quite a few, in both Tang Soo Do and Tae Kwon Do and always leave dissapointed for the fact that many points are miscalled or a blocked attack gets counted.

The one thing I love about tournaments though is that great feeling you get when you win (I'm very competitive) and especially when you take first place. I think most practioners will agree on the sparring aspect, it's a common complaint I hear from nearly everyone I talk to (oh and not to mention I got thrown into a division higher than me, age wise because my divison was lacking competitors so sparring was a bit of a challenge, but good experience)

[rayskin]

wining is great but when i lose i just get depressed for a couple days. the worst was the above mentioned teeth incident. i was in a moy thai tournament i really wasnt ready for and was over confident from my expirience in other martial arts. bottom line my face got caught between the corner of the ring and my opponents knee and then a nice man in a lab coat told me i couldnt talk for a few weeks.

[Vidar Volsung]

When I get a gathering of friends we have one. its begins with about 25 people and we have different catagories for different styles. Kinda like a dog show, best in style then best in show. We use real weapons though so the most I got was a couple of cuts, and then I walked away with nothing. It depends. The most I ever cared for in empty hand was crane and eagles claw. Some others are okay.

[bobO]

You fight with real weapons? Tell me I read that wrong.

[Vidar Volsung]

Nope, real weapons. they arn't blunt either. I have a couple of good knife wounds from me and my friends lol. Their are some pretty funny stories. But the only real way to learn to fight is if their are conquences from making a mistake. And we and the people that I was training learned. We can defend out selves from pretty much everything. Well me and my brother can anyway...the others have no hope.

[69NINJA]

Nope, real weapons. they arn't blunt either. I have a couple of good knife wounds from me and my friends lol. Their are some pretty funny stories. But the only real way to learn to fight is if their are conquences from making a mistake. And we and the people that I was training learned. We can defend out selves from pretty much everything. Well me and my brother can anyway...the others have no hope.

OH good god. sigh. OK... Here it goes.

FIRST, let me say welcome to the forum as well.
ok, got that out of the way. now...

SECOND, something that is not "welcome" on this little forum is blatant carelessness. do me a favor and re-read the post I quoted from you....

Nope, real weapons. they arn't blunt either. I have a couple of good knife wounds from me and my friends lol. Their are some pretty funny stories. But the only real way to learn to fight is if their are conquences from making a mistake. And we and the people that I was training learned. We can defend out selves from pretty much everything. Well me and my brother can anyway...the others have no hope.


did you read it? did you notice that from start to finish it was juvenile carelessness? if you didn't think anything was wrong then god help us all, This is our future.~X(
I hate to tell you this but there is no such thing as a "good knife wound"! I can tell by your writing that you've never actually experienced a true severe cut with arterial bleeding or a severed tendon. I tell you this right now, the initial hospital visit the surgery and months of muscle therapy you have to go through are sobering enough to give anyone respect for the damage a blade can do. no matter how much of a "the others have no hope" badass you think you are. hopefully thats not what it will take for you to learn to respect blades as deadly weapons.

If you think you can come to this place and talk like your a badass 50's greaser with a switchblade looking for a knife fight you'll be sadly mistaken
(no offense Mbob or Tora ;) you guys are the real deal, lol.)

I do however hope you will stay and READ READ READ for a while, ive learned and grown so much in the couple years ive participated with this forum, that it may have well been a college course! I definatly study more here than anywhere else:writing:

I'm not trying to bombard you with insults as soon as you walk through the door, I'm just trying to warn you that that kind of foolishness is not tolerated here.
and I'm one of the nice guys >:) yeah right. :duel:

[Torawashi]

OH good god. sigh. OK... Here it goes.

FIRST, let me say welcome to the forum as well.
ok, got that out of the way. now...

SECOND, something that is not "welcome" on this little forum is blatant carelessness. do me a favor and re-read the post I quoted from you....




did you read it? did you notice that from start to finish it was juvenile carelessness? if you didn't think anything was wrong then god help us all, This is our future.~X(
I hate to tell you this but there is no such thing as a "good knife wound"! I can tell by your writing that you've never actually experienced a true severe cut with arterial bleeding or a severed tendon. I tell you this right now, the initial hospital visit the surgery and months of muscle therapy you have to go through are sobering enough to give anyone respect for the damage a blade can do. no matter how much of a "the others have no hope" badass you think you are. hopefully thats not what it will take for you to learn to respect blades as deadly weapons.

If you think you can come to this place and talk like your a badass 50's greaser with a switchblade looking for a knife fight you'll be sadly mistaken
(no offense Mbob or Tora ;) you guys are the real deal, lol.)

I do however hope you will stay and READ READ READ for a while, ive learned and grown so much in the couple years ive participated with this forum, that it may have well been a college course! I definatly study more here than anywhere else:writing:

I'm not trying to bombard you with insults as soon as you walk through the door, I'm just trying to warn you that that kind of foolishness is not tolerated here.
and I'm one of the nice guys >:) yeah right. :duel:

.....Ditto :ohyeah: I noticed in your profile that one of your interests is competition shooting.....do you shoot at each other with live ammo? http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w71/jimnpatsy/76.gif

[rayskin]

just gona say not safe and wait for dotanuki to get wind of this one

[Dotanuki]

Well, did I ever tell you guys, how I can go to friend's dojo, fight and beat everyone of his 20 to 30 students, fighting them all simultaneously. Without getting a scratch, or breaking a sweat!

(Er, I did mention they were all little kids didn't I?)

Vidar,
With you and your brother's skills, you both should sign up and immediately join our nation's armed services. They need all the help they can get.
With your skills they might even let you skip basic training, and just immediately install you in the SEALs or Rangers, maybe even Delta Force!

Not really a good start for you here with the above post, Vidar.
I thought you said you have been following this forum for awhile?
If so, Why post something, so silly?

Usually the only way you get me to listen to a story like this, (Vidar's) is if we are sitting in a bar, and he's buying the drinks.
Then I would be;
"Oh, Really?" "Buy me another beer!"

Well, we're not drinking, and you're not buying!

So I quess, that means............., I really don't want to hear this story! :-<

How about, we just skip the nonsense, and talk about swords?
Eh, Vidar?

[bobO]

:-O A kinder gentler Dotanuki!?

[Stitch]

Nope, real weapons. they arn't blunt either. I have a couple of good knife wounds from me and my friends lol. Their are some pretty funny stories. But the only real way to learn to fight is if their are conquences from making a mistake. And we and the people that I was training learned. We can defend out selves from pretty much everything. Well me and my brother can anyway...the others have no hope.

LOL my BS meter is going off strong with this guy.

On topic, I've competed in Shuai-Chiao tournaments as well as Grecco Roman Wrestling competitions. Both were quite fun, but brutal at times. I did fairly well in both but I was never ranked nationally or anything.

I never did any stand up point sparring as I believe it's flawed because it only measures speed and not skill. I've seen too many point matches were an opponant wins because he or she does the same move (or a similar move) over and over again. This includes artists that were considered to be "advanced".

[Mako]

:-O A kinder gentler Dotanuki!?
Maybe he's mellowing in his old age. :Whistling:

[Vidar Volsung]

OH good god. sigh. OK... Here it goes.

FIRST, let me say welcome to the forum as well.
ok, got that out of the way. now...

SECOND, something that is not "welcome" on this little forum is blatant carelessness. do me a favor and re-read the post I quoted from you....




did you read it? did you notice that from start to finish it was juvenile carelessness? if you didn't think anything was wrong then god help us all, This is our future.~X(
I hate to tell you this but there is no such thing as a "good knife wound"! I can tell by your writing that you've never actually experienced a true severe cut with arterial bleeding or a severed tendon. I tell you this right now, the initial hospital visit the surgery and months of muscle therapy you have to go through are sobering enough to give anyone respect for the damage a blade can do. no matter how much of a "the others have no hope" badass you think you are. hopefully thats not what it will take for you to learn to respect blades as deadly weapons.

If you think you can come to this place and talk like your a badass 50's greaser with a switchblade looking for a knife fight you'll be sadly mistaken
(no offense Mbob or Tora ;) you guys are the real deal, lol.)

I do however hope you will stay and READ READ READ for a while, ive learned and grown so much in the couple years ive participated with this forum, that it may have well been a college course! I definatly study more here than anywhere else:writing:

I'm not trying to bombard you with insults as soon as you walk through the door, I'm just trying to warn you that that kind of foolishness is not tolerated here.
and I'm one of the nice guys >:) yeah right. :duel:
I am not being foolsih 1. I an saying what I do. and a good knife wound is a clean one. It was hatchets and machettes, long and short swords, three sectional staff and what ever else we had. Did I say I was bad *** NO. So stop assuming that I am saying that. I train differently then other people. I never took a course on it and I have been training like that since I was 12. By the way I hate the 50's and switchblades. Knifes in general are very useless in a fight. They are not pratical. 1 point of attack instead of the 8 with out a weapon not to mention that you know where the attack is coming from too.

[bobO]

I am not being foolsih 1. I an saying what I do. and a good knife wound is a clean one. It was hatchets and machettes, long and short swords, three sectional staff and what ever else we had. Did I say I was bad *** NO. So stop assuming that I am saying that. I train differently then other people. I never took a course on it and I have been training like that since I was 12. By the way I hate the 50's and switchblades. Knifes in general are very useless in a fight. They are not pratical. 1 point of attack instead of the 8 with out a weapon not to mention that you know where the attack is coming from too.
For one I was born in the fifty's. For two are you freaking kidding me! I'm not going to assume you know what your talking about, I KNOW you don't know what your talking about. You need to take this else where! This crap is not welcome here. By the way ninja was being nice just calling you foolish.

[Dotanuki]

Hey Kurgan,

Got an extra pair of waders?
It is getting so deep, the boots are filling up with this guys posts.
All this $hit is piling up, and he still hasn't even offered to buy us a beer to ignore it.
Although at the rate he is going, it would be hard to ignore even if he bought us a couple of cases of top self liquor!

We better be carefull, we don't want to offend anyone this dangerous! 8-}

[goose710]

Loose the furry OoPs squad??????????????
da gooseman

[bobO]

Hazleton is only a short ride from here. I wonder if me and my buddys could play if we only brought knives? Just kidding?

[Dotanuki]

So Vidar,
You have been training that way since you were 12?
What are you now?
15?

Can't you understand we are NOT interested in Posts like these?
We don't care, if you fight your buddies with real axes and swords!
We don't care, if Thor took you to an alien planet, to fight monsters!
We don't care what you in the bathroom alone, when your mom's not around, and you got the door locked.

We just don't frigging CARE!!!!!!!!!!!

[Torawashi]

Vidar; perhaps you would be happier in a different forum....THIS one is for mature folks.....or maybe Jason could create a "daycare" thread..... :BS:

[RedZorak]

WTF. This is... I'm having trouble finding words. This is the STUPIDEST crap I've ever heard. This is why the older generations look down on us young people. Because of this crap. Fighting each other with real weapons? Sounds fun until one of you dies. A knife being useless in a fight? That is blatant stupidity. A simple knife is one of the deadliest/useful weapons/tools you can use. That's why most cultures developed them. Grow up a little, and then maybe come back to the forums. No one needs to read your BS.

[rayskin]

Samurai_Deathis what your looking at right now and fifties stle stilletos are the S#$@. do me a favor and use a little common sense. this is the reason people think sword collectors are so wierd people like you make everyone else think the rest of us are wakos who get a kick out of cutting each other up. i mean really you belong in those youtube videos from a while back.

[DragonGuardian]

WTF. This is... I'm having trouble finding words. This is the STUPIDEST crap I've ever heard. This is why the older generations look down on us young people. Because of this crap. Fighting each other with real weapons? Sounds fun until one of you dies. A knife being useless in a fight? That is blatant stupidity. A simple knife is one of the deadliest/useful weapons/tools you can use. That's why most cultures developed them. Grow up a little, and then maybe come back to the forums. No one needs to read your BS.

As we are from the same generation, I wholeheartedly agree with you. If you want to swing stuff at each other, join a Dagohir club or something where you won't land in Death Row for a hit to the head. This is a forum for people who respect the weapons they collect. Not treating them like a harmless toy. If you cannot respect the weapons you claim to collect, and if you cannot respect the people here, you're better off out the road.

[Vidar Volsung]

Besides from you assulting me I bet that you never had to learn to defend yourself cause the gangs here will stab you. That you never EVER had to fight for your life cause some kid wanted your money and held you at machette point. Cause all the "mature people" here are so much wiser and better. Its people like that that are over confident in their abilities. You all can go and think what ever you want and shove it in your pipe and smoke it. I know what I did helped my friends and your all just incompetent children.

[Firehand10k]

Very poor choice of words my friend and completely inaccurate. Many of the members here have been in conflict situations to include a few different wars. Those that respond to you respond to what they know from their experiences. That they don't talk about things like you do isn't because they haven't seen it. Its because they have seen it enough to find their place in the world. The don't have to run their mouths because they know what they have done and can do. They know their limits as well as their strengths and recognized them as obstacles to be over come rather than unwanted bits to be ignored and talked over the top of.

Most of the members here are here to learn. Whether its about which cheap katana from China they should get next or how a classical Japanese blade is made. We listen to each others knowledge AND opinions with respect and try to take what we need from them.

Training the way you say you do is inherently more dangerous than properly organized training. While you think you gained something, and in fact you may have toned your timing and learned somethings that have helped you, You have missed out on one of the keys to martial arts training. DISCIPLINE. Your resort to calling many of the members here "incompetent children" is proof of that. It is an expression of anger and in a real fight anger doesn't help focus does.

Many of the earlier posts look like a quest for attention. We have given you that, even if not with approval. Now settle in, tone it back a bit and see what you can learn from the knowledgeable, experienced, fellows here. You can still make some good friends.

[rayskin]

well said fire hand so how bout we forget about the mess and move back to the topic or any other one for that matter before this conversation gets out of hand. ill start with a new question any stories of self defence situations that arent to bad?

[Vidar Volsung]

Very poor choice of words my friend and completely inaccurate. Many of the members here have been in conflict situations to include a few different wars. Those that respond to you respond to what they know from their experiences. That they don't talk about things like you do isn't because they haven't seen it. Its because they have seen it enough to find their place in the world. The don't have to run their mouths because they know what they have done and can do. They know their limits as well as their strengths and recognized them as obstacles to be over come rather than unwanted bits to be ignored and talked over the top of.

Most of the members here are here to learn. Whether its about which cheap katana from China they should get next or how a classical Japanese blade is made. We listen to each others knowledge AND opinions with respect and try to take what we need from them.

Training the way you say you do is inherently more dangerous than properly organized training. While you think you gained something, and in fact you may have toned your timing and learned somethings that have helped you, You have missed out on one of the keys to martial arts training. DISCIPLINE. Your resort to calling many of the members here "incompetent children" is proof of that. It is an expression of anger and in a real fight anger doesn't help focus does.

Many of the earlier posts look like a quest for attention. We have given you that, even if not with approval. Now settle in, tone it back a bit and see what you can learn from the knowledgeable, experienced, fellows here. You can still make some good friends.


When you go to west point and pass and become a ranger. then talk

[Jason Moore]

Oh, crap, why oh why do I have to deal with this yet again. We do not tolerate posts using unsafe methods. PERIOD. If you do not respect that, LEAVE. Nuff said. (I imagine you will want to leave after this anyway as noone will ever take any of your posts seriously from this point on)

[Mako]

Oh, crap, why oh why do I have to deal with this yet again.
You shouldn't have to Jason but unfortunately every forum attracts a mindless egotistical cretin occasionally. :-<

[bobO]

Hey, why you picking on me?

[the blade master]

hey bobo
i dont think there picking on you unless you do? come under
the heading of mindless egotistical or cretin;)
mick.

[bobO]

LOL! Whew, guess I'm just a sensitive kinda guy. Have been called a cretin more then once. Seriously I knew he was talking about Vlad the impaled.

[Jason Moore]

I know Vidar and have met him in person. He is a customer of mine and seemed like a nice guy so I asked him to join the forum. Didn't know this would happen guys and I feel embarrassed....#-o

[goose710]

Jason
no need for embarrassment hell i got my brother in law a job an he quit befor he started the shift!

You still da man!!
da gooseman

[Dotanuki]

Jason
no need for embarrassment hell i got my brother in law a job an he quit befor he started the shift!

You still da man!!
da gooseman

goose,

It might have turned out even worse if your brother-in-law stayed. =))

Vidar sounds like a teen gangbanger looking for attention, got a whole neighborhood of them here.
Hates the world and wants to take it out on us, just trying to aggravate us to get back at the world. When he no longer get's a response from us, he will probably go out and do a drive-by shooting. Or go out with his gang and jump someone he thinks looks like one of us. Or maybe go out and beat up some wino, or poor old lady walking down the street.
Funny, all the gangs here are either black or PR's, with a moniker like Vidar, sounds like a suburban wannabe.
The best thing we can do with this guy is IGNORE him, ignore his posts, (all of his posts!) pretend he is not there. Make him invisible!
As he is just purposely anymore just trying to get a rile from us.

[Jason Moore]

I have met with this individual more than once and he seemed very kind and respectful. I do not know what is happening, but in the meantime, please just let it go. (There are better things to talk about)

[Stitch]

I think I found Vidar Volsung and the ONE other member of his motley crew having one of their famed "Blade Battles" on Google maps.

Check it: http://maps.google.com/maps?oe=UTF-8&q=8+Sampsonia+Way,+Pittsburgh,+Allegheny,+Pennsylv ania+15212&ie=UTF8&split=0&gl=us&ll=40.458262,-80.007505&spn=0.008588,0.01693&t=h&z=16&iwloc=addr&layer=c&cbll=40.457662,-80.007541&panoid=KD0g-IcPQW09qFcP2RU2kg&cbp=12,310.45443546675455,,1,10.375837805207798

=))

[Dotanuki]

I have met with this individual more than once and he seemed very kind and respectful. I do not know what is happening, but in the meantime, please just let it go. (There are better things to talk about)

Jason, is right!
Let's just let this go.
Maybe the mods could close this thread?

[rayskin]

how dod you find that on google maps i mean thats just impresive

[Vidar Volsung]

I'm sorry for those posts. The "live" weapons awere dulled. and I am wrong on saying that they were live. It is stupid on my part of posting those posts.

[goose710]

OK
nuff said about nothing
carry on
da gooseman

[Jason Moore]

Done....